Archive for September, 2009
The Spiritual Openness Continuum | the SENTinel
Posted by Todd Engstrom in college ministry on September 13, 2009
My new friend Steve Lutz has done some good work on articulating the relative breakdowns of students at Penn State on their “spiritual openness continuum”. I’d suspect it looks fairly similar on most state university campuses (±5%):
+2 Actively looking, open people (churched, professing Christian, or on the verge). 3% of the student population
+1 Have spiritual questions in the back of their mind; but open-minded, not closed. Willing to give it a shot. Nominal Christians, friendly non-Christians. 10%
0 Apathetic. Couldn’t care less, either way. Find both extremes to be shrill, obnoxious, and irrelevant. If you bring up Jesus, they shrug their shoulders and say “Meh.” 62%
-1 Suspicious, somewhat hostile, but might be willing to give you an audience. 20%
-2 Active, angry, antagonistic. For example, militant atheist. 5%
via The “Spiritual Openness Continuum” on Campus, and What to Do About It « the SENTinel.
I’d highly recommend reading his whole post, especially the implications for ministry structure and design (This is one of the several reasons we have moved toward a missional community structure in our ministry).
Obedience Is Key | Learning to Trade
Posted by Todd Engstrom in college ministry on September 12, 2009
I love doing College Ministry, but more importantly, I love it when men whom you have invested your life into apply what they have learned to their lives. Below is a post from a student whom I discipled as he is entering into the world of day trading:
I’m 100% sure that trusting God will make me a better trader.
Before you get up in arms about that statement, please hear explicitly what I am not saying: namely that trusting in God will make me a profitable trader. I don’t believe that at all. But being a better trader… that’s something that will happen. Here’s why:
Fear is eliminated. Pride is eliminated. Greed is eliminated. End of story.
If I’m founded in Christ, I have nothing to gain… I’ve gained it all. I have nothing to lose… earthly possessions are but a pittance to the love I’ve received. I have nothing to prove… Christ is my only focus and the only one worth serving.
I have much maturing to do.
Discipleship and Ministry | Part 2
Posted by Todd Engstrom in discipleship, pastoring on September 11, 2009

For my initial thoughts on the challenges of remaining faithful to discipleship in the midst of ministry, go here. I’d like to expand a little more fully on my thoughts from the last post.
In brief, I’ve found that it can be extremely difficult to continually cultivate the centrality of discipleship, or the process of selectively investing a small number of individuals in order to teach obedience to what Jesus taught (Matthew 28:18-20), in the face of increasing demands of ministry, or meeting the immediate physical and spiritual needs of individuals as you encounter them.
The question to ask, I think, is why is it difficult? Why is it so tough to remain faithful to the model of discipleship which Jesus demonstrates? Here’s a couple reasons:
- Ministry often times leads to immediate results and draws crowds (for examples from Luke, see Jesus casting out demons, Jesus healing people, and Jesus’ miracles).
- Discipleship often is painstakingly slow and difficult with one step forward and two steps back (Peter confesses Jesus as the Christ, then immediately denies him, and the disciples making mistakes).
- Ministry tends to involve a much lower level of relational investment, and for both parties there is a relative degree of anonymity (crowds don’t know who Jesus is).
- Discipleship requires a high degree of vulnerability for both parties (Jesus weeps in front of his disciples).
Both types of investment in people are important (see Pauls discussion about he and Apollos in 1 Corinthians 3), but the two are designed for the purpose creating multiplying disciples who participate in the Great Commission.
Ministry needs to have an end in discipleship (the public ministry of Jesus reaches its pinnacle in Luke with Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ), and discipleship utilizes ministry for teaching (Jesus had his disciples observing most of his public ministry) and as an entry point into relational investment for discipleship (Jesus teaches and performs miracles before calling his disciples).
I find in myself, however, that the design of what I am calling ministry often is easiest to default because it offers quick successes and I can remain fairly distant from those to whom I am ministering. The process of discipleship is exhausting, inconvenient, and difficult, which make it so much easier to simply enjoy the fruits of ministry (just like the seventy-two after returning from Jesus assigned task) rather than labor with love toward replication.
I am thankful, however, that Jesus did not simply minister to the crowds, but instead remained faithful to the twelve, because the movement of the Gospel hinged so much on their faithfulness to replicating disciples. You don’t hear much throughout the rest of the New Testament about the crowds or those whom Jesus did something miraculous, but the disciples were at the epicenter of the movement of the Holy Spirit.
Let us remain faithful to a few, while ministering to many, in hopes that God would redeem and renew all things!
Summary of College Ministry | Gentrified
Posted by Todd Engstrom in austin stone, college ministry on September 9, 2009

Ever wondered what we’re up to with college this time of the year?
Check out my friend Logan Gentry’s post on what’s happening, starting with Austin Stone on Campus.
Below is the twitter chatter from ASOC…good stuff!
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toodus: Austin Stone on Campus was off the hook tonight. @aaronivey led some great worship, and @_matt_carter gave a great word. Praise God!
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kelseybbryant: Thank you, Austin Stone, for reminding me how much I love Jesus.
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CottonDowdy: Great and powerful stuff at Austin Stone On Campus. Special shout out to @scottfrazier, great job buddy.
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jeffmangum: Austin Stone on Campus…right now! @aaronivey leading us to worship. – http://yfrog.com/09zqyrj
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cschuchard: RT @toodus: Here we go…Austin Stone on Campus is about to get rolling #fb http://twitpic.com/h4zqt
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dave_barrett: @aaronivey kicking off The Austin Stone on Campus right now! Awesome. http://yfrog.com/09lc5mj
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Chelsea314: http://twitpic.com/h4zyh – Austin stone on campus with @HaileyHiggs !
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toodus: Here we go…Austin Stone on Campus is about to get rolling #fb http://twitpic.com/h4zqt
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johnkidenda: RT @theaustinstone: College students: The Austin Stone on Campus is at 7pm tonight at Hogg Auditorium on the UT Campus. http://bit.ly/1z1LAA (expand)
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summermorgan: At austin stone on campus ! Hope I find a good small group to get plugged into !
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alisonkrusee: Driving kate around to austin stone on campus – makes me feel old to be back on campus!
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DustyBack: Worshiping with Austin Stone on Campus.
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johnkidenda: http://mobypicture.com/?e2fb0p – At ‘austin stone on campus’! Come check it out at the hogg auditorium!
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kuotient: Austin Stone on Campus @ Hogg!
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emnein: Austin Stone on Campus! Hogg Auditorium! Wonderful dinner with @angelazumwalt yayayay
Launching a Church Adoption Fund Webinar | ABBA Fund Blog
Posted by Todd Engstrom in adoption on September 8, 2009
My friend Jason Kovacs from The Abba Fund is doing a webinar on setting up an adoption fund at your church (something we have done recently at The Austin Stone). ThE webinar will provide an overview of how to establish a simple yet effective church adoption assistance fund.
The webinar is happening September 15th, 2009, 1pm EST.
To register please email info@abbafund.org.







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