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	<title>Comments on: Francis Collins to Lead National Institute of Health</title>
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		<title>By: Todd Engstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Engstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leslie and Kevin,
Thanks for the info.  I saw the post from Justin Taylor, and based on my research into more articles, it is very unclear what his position is on abortion in particular.  I would imagine that it will come out in the following weeks as he is examined for the position, but I&#039;m not putting much stock in the muddy interpretation of contextual clues that have very little to do with the actual issue at stake.

As for the embryonic stem cell research, this is an exceptionally complicated issue, and I&#039;ll definitely need to do more research into it.  There is certainly a host of issues that will be exceedingly difficult to navigate as the science of genetic therapy progresses into the future...

Looks like I&#039;ve got some homework!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie and Kevin,<br />
Thanks for the info.  I saw the post from Justin Taylor, and based on my research into more articles, it is very unclear what his position is on abortion in particular.  I would imagine that it will come out in the following weeks as he is examined for the position, but I&#8217;m not putting much stock in the muddy interpretation of contextual clues that have very little to do with the actual issue at stake.</p>
<p>As for the embryonic stem cell research, this is an exceptionally complicated issue, and I&#8217;ll definitely need to do more research into it.  There is certainly a host of issues that will be exceedingly difficult to navigate as the science of genetic therapy progresses into the future&#8230;</p>
<p>Looks like I&#8217;ve got some homework!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Somok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Somok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd -- doing well.  Hope you, Liv, and the kiddos are great.

The initial blog post I saw was on the National Review site: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2UwMWUyZjk2ZGU5N2ZkNDRmZDU0NzljYjQ3MTA3OTA=
Needless to say, they&#039;ve got their slant on everything . . .

Here&#039;s a Christian-run site I&#039;m not previously familiar with but has section that may be of interest: http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/11605811/

A bit: &quot;Though Collins, a self-described evangelical, will head the nation&#039;s primary scientific research agency, the avid supporter of stem cell research seems unlikely to allay the fears fellow evangelicals have over embryonic stem cell research.

&quot;&#039;Francis is a great person, a good scientist, but we disagree with his positions on human embryonic stem cell research and on cloning human embryos for experimentation,&#039; said David Prentice, senior fellow at the conservative Family Research Council.

&quot;Prentice&#039;s office, along with the National Association of Evangelicals, Concerned Women for America and other Christian advocacy groups, favor adult stem cell research, but oppose embryonic research because they believe the process destroys nascent forms of human life.

&quot;Collins reconciles the research through a process called somatic cell nuclear transfer, which creates an embryo artificially, but is also the first step in cloning.

&quot;&#039;Now that is very different in my mind, morally, than the union of sperm and egg,&#039; he explained in an interview with Religion and Ethics NewsWeekly. &#039;We do not, in nature, see somatic cell nuclear transfer occurring. This is a purely man-made event.&#039;&quot;

Just shooting from the hip, it seems to me that an embryo&#039;s moral status would have little to do with whether it has come into being as a result of natural conjugal relations or through somatic cell nuclear transfer.  On the face of it, it would appear that Collins&#039;s position would lead to one holding that adult human clones--let&#039;s hope that never happens--wouldn&#039;t have the same moral status as &quot;naturally procreated&quot; human beings.  To me that position seems unwarranted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd &#8212; doing well.  Hope you, Liv, and the kiddos are great.</p>
<p>The initial blog post I saw was on the National Review site: <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2UwMWUyZjk2ZGU5N2ZkNDRmZDU0NzljYjQ3MTA3OTA" rel="nofollow">http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2UwMWUyZjk2ZGU5N2ZkNDRmZDU0NzljYjQ3MTA3OTA</a>=<br />
Needless to say, they&#8217;ve got their slant on everything . . .</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Christian-run site I&#8217;m not previously familiar with but has section that may be of interest: <a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/11605811/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/11605811/</a></p>
<p>A bit: &#8220;Though Collins, a self-described evangelical, will head the nation&#8217;s primary scientific research agency, the avid supporter of stem cell research seems unlikely to allay the fears fellow evangelicals have over embryonic stem cell research.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Francis is a great person, a good scientist, but we disagree with his positions on human embryonic stem cell research and on cloning human embryos for experimentation,&#8217; said David Prentice, senior fellow at the conservative Family Research Council.</p>
<p>&#8220;Prentice&#8217;s office, along with the National Association of Evangelicals, Concerned Women for America and other Christian advocacy groups, favor adult stem cell research, but oppose embryonic research because they believe the process destroys nascent forms of human life.</p>
<p>&#8220;Collins reconciles the research through a process called somatic cell nuclear transfer, which creates an embryo artificially, but is also the first step in cloning.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Now that is very different in my mind, morally, than the union of sperm and egg,&#8217; he explained in an interview with Religion and Ethics NewsWeekly. &#8216;We do not, in nature, see somatic cell nuclear transfer occurring. This is a purely man-made event.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Just shooting from the hip, it seems to me that an embryo&#8217;s moral status would have little to do with whether it has come into being as a result of natural conjugal relations or through somatic cell nuclear transfer.  On the face of it, it would appear that Collins&#8217;s position would lead to one holding that adult human clones&#8211;let&#8217;s hope that never happens&#8211;wouldn&#8217;t have the same moral status as &#8220;naturally procreated&#8221; human beings.  To me that position seems unwarranted.</p>
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		<title>By: leslie peck</title>
		<link>http://toddengstrom.com/2009/07/10/francis-collins-to-lead-national-institute-of-health/comment-page-1/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>leslie peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s a link from the between two world&#039;s blog... that leads to an article about francis collins... justin taylor also states on the blog that he will be making updates on this soon, so it seems there is a lot of confusion going on.

http://theologica.blogspot.com/2009/07/francis-collins-on-abortion.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s a link from the between two world&#8217;s blog&#8230; that leads to an article about francis collins&#8230; justin taylor also states on the blog that he will be making updates on this soon, so it seems there is a lot of confusion going on.</p>
<p><a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2009/07/francis-collins-on-abortion.html" rel="nofollow">http://theologica.blogspot.com/2009/07/francis-collins-on-abortion.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Todd Engstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Engstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,
Thanks for bringing that to light! Based upon what I have read in the last day, I&#039;m not sure it is clear where he stands on abortion.  Most of people&#039;s conclusions seem to be drawn from a few vague and contextual quotes.  If he indeed comes down on a pro-choice agenda, I will be very troubled, to say the least.  

Can you link some of the articles you have been reading?  I&#039;m generally interested in following up with this...

Great to hear from you bro!  How&#039;s school treating you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,<br />
Thanks for bringing that to light! Based upon what I have read in the last day, I&#8217;m not sure it is clear where he stands on abortion.  Most of people&#8217;s conclusions seem to be drawn from a few vague and contextual quotes.  If he indeed comes down on a pro-choice agenda, I will be very troubled, to say the least.  </p>
<p>Can you link some of the articles you have been reading?  I&#8217;m generally interested in following up with this&#8230;</p>
<p>Great to hear from you bro!  How&#8217;s school treating you?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Somok</title>
		<link>http://toddengstrom.com/2009/07/10/francis-collins-to-lead-national-institute-of-health/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Somok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd -- long-time reader, first-time commenter.  I sympathize with your seeing this as a bit of a boon in terms of battling the perception that Christian faith--particularly perhaps the faith of evangelical Christians--and natural science are at odds with one another.  

I don&#039;t know a ton about Francis Collins, but some of the stuff that I&#039;m reading about this claims that he&#039;s in favor of legalized abortion and supports federal funding for embryonic-stem-cell research.  If this is indeed the case, it seems like the Obama administration may have scored big in terms of its attempts to silence opposition to what I take to be its anti-life policy positions:  &quot;Why do all of you evangelicals oppose this stuff when the proudly evangelical head of the NIH says it&#039;s fine?&quot;  Granted, she hasn&#039;t written books on the complementarity of faith and reason or anything like that, but let&#039;s just say that, as a Catholic, I was hardly thrilled when Kathleen Sebelius was named Secretary of HHS . . .

BTW, the pope&#039;s gift to Obama today was a copy of Dignitas Personae: http://www.usccb.org/comm/Dignitaspersonae/Dignitas_Personae.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd &#8212; long-time reader, first-time commenter.  I sympathize with your seeing this as a bit of a boon in terms of battling the perception that Christian faith&#8211;particularly perhaps the faith of evangelical Christians&#8211;and natural science are at odds with one another.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know a ton about Francis Collins, but some of the stuff that I&#8217;m reading about this claims that he&#8217;s in favor of legalized abortion and supports federal funding for embryonic-stem-cell research.  If this is indeed the case, it seems like the Obama administration may have scored big in terms of its attempts to silence opposition to what I take to be its anti-life policy positions:  &#8220;Why do all of you evangelicals oppose this stuff when the proudly evangelical head of the NIH says it&#8217;s fine?&#8221;  Granted, she hasn&#8217;t written books on the complementarity of faith and reason or anything like that, but let&#8217;s just say that, as a Catholic, I was hardly thrilled when Kathleen Sebelius was named Secretary of HHS . . .</p>
<p>BTW, the pope&#8217;s gift to Obama today was a copy of Dignitas Personae: <a href="http://www.usccb.org/comm/Dignitaspersonae/Dignitas_Personae.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.usccb.org/comm/Dignitaspersonae/Dignitas_Personae.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Johnson</title>
		<link>http://toddengstrom.com/2009/07/10/francis-collins-to-lead-national-institute-of-health/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read &quot;Next&quot; by Michael Crichton?  For some reason that is what popped into my mind when I saw your post.  Hopefully this guy is the real deal... not like the &quot;Christian&quot; genetic scientist and leader of the NIH that was in his book :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read &#8220;Next&#8221; by Michael Crichton?  For some reason that is what popped into my mind when I saw your post.  Hopefully this guy is the real deal&#8230; not like the &#8220;Christian&#8221; genetic scientist and leader of the NIH that was in his book <img src='http://toddengstrom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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