Comments on: Triperspectival Leadership | Church Matters http://toddengstrom.com/2009/07/05/triperspectival-leadership-church-matters/ Strings of Wispy Ideas Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:25:52 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jeff http://toddengstrom.com/2009/07/05/triperspectival-leadership-church-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-246 Jeff Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:44:04 +0000 http://toddengstrom.com/?p=559#comment-246 That is not the first time I have been turned towards Alan Hirsch and The Forgotten Ways. I will have to add it to my ever-growing book list. I seriously need to join a local book-sharing club or something because I don't make enough to afford all of these books :). That is not the first time I have been turned towards Alan Hirsch and The Forgotten Ways. I will have to add it to my ever-growing book list. I seriously need to join a local book-sharing club or something because I don’t make enough to afford all of these books :) .

]]> By: Todd Engstrom http://toddengstrom.com/2009/07/05/triperspectival-leadership-church-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-245 Todd Engstrom Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:28:59 +0000 http://toddengstrom.com/?p=559#comment-245 Jeff, Thanks for the comments, and by and large I would agree with your statement. If you are curious to read more about it, I'd recommend reading Alan Hirsch's The Forgotten Ways ( or his blog http://www.shapevine.com/pg/blog/alanhirsch) and his insights into the leadership structures of institutional churches. His basic lens comes from Ephesians 4:11-12, that God has gifted the church with apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers, and with the rise of Christendom only pastors and teachers were needed/valued. I've really enjoyed his thoughts on leadership, and they are an excellent compliment to these ideas. Jeff,
Thanks for the comments, and by and large I would agree with your statement. If you are curious to read more about it, I’d recommend reading Alan Hirsch’s The Forgotten Ways ( or his blog http://www.shapevine.com/pg/blog/alanhirsch) and his insights into the leadership structures of institutional churches.

His basic lens comes from Ephesians 4:11-12, that God has gifted the church with apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers, and with the rise of Christendom only pastors and teachers were needed/valued. I’ve really enjoyed his thoughts on leadership, and they are an excellent compliment to these ideas.

]]> By: Jeff http://toddengstrom.com/2009/07/05/triperspectival-leadership-church-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-244 Jeff Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:44:18 +0000 http://toddengstrom.com/?p=559#comment-244 In my admittedly limited experience it seems that there are an abundance of Priests and a lack of Prophets and Kings in most churches. I am not sure exactly why this is so, but I have a feeling it has much to do with the way we "call" people to the ministry today, especially in the Baptist world (which I am most familiar with). In my admittedly limited experience it seems that there are an abundance of Priests and a lack of Prophets and Kings in most churches. I am not sure exactly why this is so, but I have a feeling it has much to do with the way we “call” people to the ministry today, especially in the Baptist world (which I am most familiar with).

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